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PostSubject: Night-Terrors   Sat May 02, 2009 5:04 pm

This is a subject very close to my cold and blackened heart. I suffer from nightmares, most nights. These don't normally bother me, but recently, they've been getting worse. I don't normally tell people about this, but I also suffer from night-terrors. For those of you unaware of them, they are nightmares that don't end when you wake up.
I have several recurring 'beings' that plague my half-awake conciousness. There is a gangly beast with no eyes and a maw that takes over most of it's head. This one is caused by depression. And the other most common one is a seven foot giant in a trenchcoat, gas mask and broad brimmed hat. He seems to be caused by overwhelming worry. There are others, but they are rare, and apparently causeless.

Also, I can't remember the dream I had the other night, but I woke up in the morning with self inflicted scratches all over my chest, reminiscent of the time I confronted a night terror, and it attacked me. That night it was scratches, bruises and bite wounds, all self inflicted.

I know I'm crazy, but I guess I'm throwing it out there to see if anyone else has ever experienced anything similar, or they know of anyone else. So far, I'm the only person I know with them.
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PostSubject: Re: Night-Terrors   Sat May 02, 2009 5:23 pm

I don't personally suffer from them but it's a suprisingly common thing

here's my basic grasp on them:

It's caused by problems during REM sleep - normally the body is kept from moving in response to dreams but for some people and on some ocasions, this natural paralysis fails to kick in fully or at all

It means that someone suffering night terrors will often become violent in their sleep, kicking, biting, punching, scratching. Sometimes they will scream in reaction to their nightmare. Sometimes it becomes more like sleep walking.
I watched a tv documentary thing on sleep disorders a few months back and they had a teenage boy who was jumping out of his bedroom window every night - a 1st floor one.

And you know that feeling when you're still groggy as you wake up and you're not quite sure what's real or unreal? imagine that with your nightmares, the figures/monsters seeming real as you come fully awake.

Correct me if my understanding's wrong or missing anything =)

Naomi said something to me about one of her children suffering from them so maybe she could post some more stuff about them too.
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PostSubject: Re: Night-Terrors   Sat May 02, 2009 5:35 pm

No, that seems pretty accurate. Nice to see that I'm not actually insane, after years of them. Never really looked into them.
They're just a fact of life for me.
For the record, I sleep walk as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Night-Terrors   Sat May 02, 2009 5:49 pm

lol no you're not insane.. =P

The documentary I watched was about this department at a hospital.. think it was in liverpool but not sure... that specialised in diagnosing and treating sleep disorders
they had several night terror cases during the series.
one was the lad who would jump out the window - his mum tried nailing the window shut but he jumped through the glass and got pretty badly cut up.

they had meds that they gave to them that aparently stopped the night terrors so maybe you should look into it a bit, it was all NHS.

I think there's a lonngggg waiting list to see this team though.

and I think everyone sleep walks at some point in their lives.

I did at one point but that was at a pretty unstable/unsettled moment in my life. *shrugs*
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PostSubject: Re: Night-Terrors   Sat May 02, 2009 5:56 pm

Ah yes, I seem to recall that documentary, now that you mention it.

And no. No meds for me. All my psychological oddities are what make me...me. I don't medicate. Never will.

I think peaceful sleep shall forever remain elusive for me.
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PostSubject: Re: Night-Terrors   Sun May 03, 2009 4:59 am

mhmm

i mean where's the fun in an uneventful nights sleep? =D
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PostSubject: Re: Night-Terrors   Sun May 03, 2009 8:22 am

I personally have never 'sleep walked', and I doubt I ever will.... but I do tend to say some disturbing things in my sleep. I can't remember any specifically but I remember my mum telling me that I've said some worrying things in my sleep, but that's about the amount of my unnatural sleep. I do also have predictive dreams, in which I can see the future, but it only comes across as deja vu, since it's the kind of dreams that I can't really remember, but a lot of people have that I'm sure so it's nothing special.

Night Terrors do intrigue me most greatly and I'd like to detect brainwave anomalies and investigate the causes (confirming some, like the goblin thing, and the giant) and figuring out the rarer ones. Psychological phenomenon really do make me ponder, especially since I'm usually quite good at determining psychological issues which may be causing these. Unfortunately I haven't read up on sleep pattersn yet but perhaps once I start going to Uni, I'll keep you posted, and perhaps even use you in an investigation, would you be interested in that? It'll be completely anonymous so you don't need to worry about a room full of strangers knowing about you.
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PostSubject: Re: Night-Terrors   Sun May 03, 2009 9:47 am

I would, but considering that my night-terrors are very rare. I've had one in the last eight months. They're hardly predictable, and I need to be in a bad place before I had them.
We'll see.
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PostSubject: Re: Night-Terrors   Sun May 03, 2009 2:45 pm

he could threaten to kill you before the investigation... then you'd be in a bad place =D
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I get that predictive deja vu - prime example was I had a very clear colour dream in which I was sat facing a gaming console - I was playing a game on it - the wall behind was bright red, the console was set up on a wire mesh shelf, the floor was black and white checkered pattern. I looked to my left and there was a guy sat playing a console, I didn't recognise him. turned the other way and there was another guy playing the other console. There were other people in the room.

about 6 months later I was sat in a texan church's youth cafe playing on a playstation. the room was exactly as i described. I turned to my left and it was Josh, on my right was Jonty. They were brothers who I had never met until I went on that missionary trip to texas, they had come on it too.

I've had other occations which are just as strange like predicting a moment in my maths class months before - I'd even seen the equations on the board, seen who I was sat next to and who my teacher was, and as before, the room was exactly as i'd dreamt. but I'd never had a lesson in that new room when I dreampt about it.

I know its very common but I think it would be worth discussing in some depth.

why does it happen? and how?

or am I just going to get told to start a new thread? XD
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PostSubject: Re: Night-Terrors   Tue May 05, 2009 12:03 am

A new thread would be good XD
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PostSubject: Re: Night-Terrors   Tue May 05, 2009 10:43 am

This post has been placed in the wrong category topic. anatomy: body and facial disfigurment, weird and unexplained diseases, growths, extra body parts and so on and so forth. night terrors would follow suit of nigthmare death syndrome.
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PostSubject: Re: Night-Terrors   Wed May 06, 2009 11:50 pm

Well, does that not depend upon your approach? It is in anatomy because it is believed to be a psychological phenomenon, nothing to do with ghosts, spirits, Angels or Daemons.

Of course the final decision is yours and I'll see if I can move it (don't quite know how, but I should be able to figure it out) but I am requesting some reconsideration since I personally don't think Nightmare Death Syndrome should be in 'Angels & Daemons', since it's just a figment of ones imagination. But, as I said, the final decision is yours.
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PostSubject: Re: Night-Terrors   Thu May 07, 2009 5:30 am

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Well, does that not depend upon your approach? It is in anatomy because it is believed to be a psychological phenomenon, nothing to do with ghosts, spirits, Angels or Daemons.

Of course the final decision is yours and I'll see if I can move it (don't quite know how, but I should be able to figure it out) but I am requesting some reconsideration since I personally don't think Nightmare Death Syndrome should be in 'Angels & Daemons', since it's just a figment of ones imagination. But, as I said, the final decision is yours.

i dont believe it to be a part of anatomy as origins lie in angels and daemons, people originally believed these sort of things came form evil and being evil. im not say veg is but id rather keep those topics together, the reason for nightmare death syndrome being where it is is so people can argue whether it really is a heart conition as such or if it could be actuall evil beings??. and veg telling us that he has similar occurances would nicley follow suit and keep the debate or chat whatever you want to call it going.

i imagined for this topic of anatomy that people would tell us horribley amazing stories such as people who have a fetish for amputation, or the man who carried around his dead twins fetus...i dunno thats just my opinion.
angels and daemons dosent neccesarrily have to be about 'angels and daemons' lol its stuff related like for instance if we where to talk about the st magdelines statue that bleeds from the eyes i would class it as anges and daemons as they believe that she was an angel and it is an angel carrying on a message from god, but some may put it in religion as she herself is a religious symbol.

i will leave it upto you Fuzzy you havent steered me wrong...yet...lol

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PostSubject: Re: Night-Terrors   Thu May 07, 2009 5:40 am

ive just discussed this with chris and he says i need to explain this better

my idea of putting it in angels and daemons was so to dicuss the paranormal, weird, and beliefs side of it by putting it in anatomy your aiming to discuss the science of it, such as the heart and brain themselves and seen as none of us seem to be brain specialists or heart doctors i see it a bit silly trying to discuss that lol

basically i just wanted to get a sceptic and believers debate goin on as is do you really believe its a heart condition or do you believe it could be something more?? i mean it dosent explain away hearing voices and seeing things, or the paralysis......
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